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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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watching the video . . . I'm afraid this is where we part ways, maybe, McLuhan seems Allistic?
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On the plus side, I finally now where "bicameral," comes from and what it means, another weirdo philosopher I knew online was always on about it, but I couldn't get it. Now it seems clear, his "tribal," mind would match Eisler's "Dominator," social model (and the Allistic Neurotype), and his bicameral mind would then be Eisler's "Partnership," social model (and I think, the OG Autistic species of human).
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Ha, funny the bit about how TV would have exposed Hitler, if he only knew.

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@punishmenthurts TV has changed from the 1970's to today, it's much more personal. We don't all watch the same 4 or 5 channels like back then. But there is still a common kind of editing in film and TV.

When McLuhan specifically says "bicameral mind" that was just a popular term in the 1970's. In other books and such he focuses on auditory vs. books. Eyes see in one direction but ears hear in all directions at once.

Today people could learn verbal English and video only and never learn to read

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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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ah, this is true, and as an Autistic, I saw what I think of as the beginning of "hate watching," - bloody "COPS," shows that enabled things like T. I think it used to be that TV thought the idea was to make us happy, but something changed, some swine invented the hate watch. (Evolution, de-evolution happened, really.)

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@punishmenthurts Neil Postman was a teacher in New York and knew Marshall McLuhan and was in the same field (McLuhan was a Canadian)

At minimum I would suggest reading quotes from his book "Amusing Ourselves to Death", and the whole book isn't huge...

www.goodreads.com/a...

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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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cool, opened that, ty

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@RoundSparrow@mastodon.social

@punishmenthurts Your bio says "I'm Jeff, late hatched Autist invader on the Wet Coast of Canada, child of the 60s and believed it all."

Marshall McLuhan was a public figure in the 1960's and out of University of Toronto. His family is still active in the field.

www.youtube.com/wat...

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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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hey, cool, Imma watch this RFN. Thanks, and see you later. 😘
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("Believed," is past tense, I'm sorting through it all now. It's more like the sixties wished they were us, huh. 😘 )

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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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I swear, it's with love, but I am kind of laughing all the way through 😇

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@punishmenthurts McLuhan sounds absurd, and I wish I could infodump on you that there is a lot more to what he is saying than he sounds.

I'm waiting on an autistics.life account right now because I'm over-verbose and redundant. But here goes because it seems I have to wait for a person to approve my account:

1. Marshall McLuhan sounds absurd to everyone, he knows that, and he is often playful with it
2. James Joyce's book Finnegans Wake is an essential part of McLuhan understanding

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@RoundSparrow@mastodon.social

@punishmenthurts Finnegans Wake is the "real deal", James Joyce put 17 years into a 650 page book. And it is the final book in a series of books, but his most complex. Finnegans Wake is basically a history of all media in a WIki like expectation with a confrontation of The Bible, Quran, Upanishads, societies, etc.

Irish writer... Finnegans Wake was published in final form in 1938 and 30 years later Canadian 1968 McLuhan published "War and Peace in the Global Village" en.wikipedia.org/wi...

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War and Peace in the Global Village - Wikipedia

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@punishmenthurts@autistics.life

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I'm going to take your word for it, I don't have the time left to pursue that line of thought, I don't think I'm going to try Finnegan's Wake again, as much as I liked Ulysses and the stories.
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All of that great thought is on the other side of a line for me now, it's not for me. Even if the author was a straight up Autistic savant, they writ it in Allistic world, in Allistic language, about Allistic things, for Allistic people.
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All that scripture is from and for somebody else, it is no longer . . . causative in my thinking.

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